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제목: The massive K-uproar over englishspectrum forum

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:47 pm    

Post subject: The massive K-uproar over englishspectrum forum  

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Did you guys hear that the Joongang daily reported something about the negative things being posted by teachers in the English Spectrum forums? Apparently Korean netizens attacked the site and it was down today.

Can someone translate the article... I guess it was hideously damning to English teachers.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:58 pm    
Post subject: Re: The massive K-uproar over englishspectrum forum  

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All I can say is, that the article is very very not funny. Very bad press.

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whats it say exactly?

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject:    

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Here's the link:

http://news.joins.com/society/200501/11/200501110731533631300030103011.html

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject:    

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not surprised. That forum (ask the playboy) was full of crude crap.

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:14 pm    Post subject:    

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Anyone want to translate? I know some Korean, but not that much.

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject:    

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The thrust of the article was that foreigners were saying things like, "It's easy to sleep with Korean women while making money teaching." And that this, presumably, is not a good thing.

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject:    

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they've had that coming for a while if you ask me

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject:    

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is that any different to what is said on THIS site and expat's site???
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:31 pm    Post subject:    

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Well, one of my Korean female friends is making a big stink about it with me in MSN Chat right now. She is saying about how now she's not going to date foreigners, and how now no Korean girl would dare hold hands with a foreigner in public. And she's cancelled our plans to go to hongdae dancing, out of fear that korean men will attack us.

Thankfully, many Korean females know better and can see through that.

She'll get over it, as will many.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:36 pm    Post subject:    

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"여자랑 자기 쉽고 돈벌기 쉬운 김치랜드"

Looks like we all be living in "Easy-woman, easy-money Kimchee-land"  

Us old-timers won't be too shocked or surprised by this. Best one was in the late 1980s, when a few Frenchman who'd lived here a few years went back and blabbed all to Le Monde about how easy it was for them, even as froggy EFL-ers to land good-paying English teaching gigs and how (as I recall) quick the womenfolk (single AND married, which caused the biggest uproar) were to drop their knickers for a big-nose who knew how to hold a chair & open a door for them.

That directly led to one of the biggest and longest-lived crackdowns (was still in force when I got here in the 90s) on English teachers this peninsula as ever witnessed.



Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject:    

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OK, I read the Korean article and understood it. However rather than seeing second hand reporting, I would like to see the original text to see if there were any mitigating circumstances.

Does anyone have a link?
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject:    

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If you go to http://www.englishspectrum.com you'll find that the offending portion has been removed.
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:46 pm    Post subject:    

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It's a good thing this forum is still top secret.
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Yeah, that "Ask the Playboy" board was pretty crude and degrading, even by this site's standards... Who the hell refers to themselves in 3rd person as "Teh Playboy" anyways???  

Kinda funny that it happened now, cuz just barely two weeks ago they were putting some stuff on there about dating 16 year-olds, and someone went up and said something to the effect of "You idiots, this is gonna draw some Korean ire eventually".... I'm kinda glad it did, to be honest.